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Hello, I have added these chocolates to my list. Hope the photo is OK to post. Hugs, joey
updated by @Georgina Joey Ledlie: 04/11/15 04:39:21
Hello, I have added these chocolates to my list. Hope the photo is OK to post. Hugs, joey
If I'm organised, I turn the tanks on the night before at 45C, let the chocolate melt and the next morning I take it out the tanks, hand temper on tabletop, turn the temp to 31C and put the tempered chocolate back in the tank. From there you can keep it in the tank all day, stirring it and occasionally adding heat to stop it "over tempering".
If I'm not organised, I just melt my chocolate in the microwave to 45C, table temper it and then add into the melting tank at 31C.
I usually have two tanks going at a time - one for dark and one for milk.
You can also melt your chocolate to 45C (either overnight or in microwave), then turn the tank temp to 31C and add seed chocolate to temper. I find this takes a LOT longer though. Much quicker just to table the chocolate.
Hi Gap,
thanks again for the reply. These look like a great option, but how do you work it? as in do you melt all your chocolate in one tank between 45-50c then temper on marble and put into other tank set at 31C to hold temper during the day? or do you melt in both tanks to 45C,take out approx 2/3 of melted chocolate, cool on marble, then add back into same tank but turning down the temp to 31C to hold the now tempered chocolate? or do you melt, remove it all, temper then put back into tank at lower temp?
cheers
Hi James - that sounds like the one. I use an earlier model of this:
http://www.moldart.be/en/shop/chocolate-machinery/dry-heat-chocolat...
I use two tanks and often set them up in the morning with 5kg in each and mould during the day (moulded chocolates rather than bars). I've used them for my bean-to-bar as well just to hold chocolate tempered until I mould as well.
Hi Gap,
thanks for your very helpful reply. Are the holding tanks called 'chocolate melters' by mol d'art? as looked on their website but couldn't find anything referred to as a holding tank. something called a chocolate kettle but that was insanely expensive. How much chocolate do you work with throughout the day in your tank?
thanks again
Yes there are heated holding tanks. Mol d'Art are the most common (and what I use) but there are others. You temper all your chocolate by hand (they have a smaller units, a 6kg and a 12kg unit) and then put it in the tank which is set to working temp (sat 31C). You can then leave it and it will hold temper. The biggest issue is that you need to "keep" it in temper with a little work during the day. This mainly involves stirring every now and then and, as the chocolate can over-crystallise, hitting it with a heat gun when it starts to thicken too much (but not letting the temperature get so high that it goes out of temper). Its pretty easy when you get the hang of it and I often work with chocolate all day kept in a couple of these tanks and managing the temper of the chocolate just becomes second nature while you're doing other things.
Hi everyone,
I am currently tempering all my bean to bar chocolate by hand on a marble slab and I love doing it this way, however asdemandgrows, so does the pressure of tempering in small batches.
I am wondering if there is aheated holding tank out there, that I cantemper a large batch of chocolate by hand and then transfer into the holding tank. BUT willthe holding tank keep the chocolate in temper throughout the day or at least for a few hours while I remove the amount of chocolate I wantfrom it (already tempered)for different applications without having to constantly re-temper it. OR am I over complicating things and should invest in a tempering machine? if that's the case then which one? As I am in the UKit seemsany chocolate related machine is difficult to come by so am in much need of advice.
thanks
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Hi there choco fans
I need help finding packaging manufacturers in Florida, a printing house for the chocolate wrappingand a good display printing company or all in one, that would be the best solution actually.
Google doesn't seem to be enough, therefore I'm asking you.
I want to find as many companies possible, in Florida or near Florida so I could compare the prices and the quality of their work.
Thanks in advance
Hi, I think that there is no such thing as chocolate that is weather (heat) resistant. Couverture chocolate is a quality chocolate which is high in cacao butter. Cacao butter melts just under body temperature. That is one of it's characteristics. This characteristic ensures a superior mouth feel to the chocolate...
So this is why couverture is superior to compound chocolate (often with palm oil, with a slightly higher melting point)
If well tempered the high cacao butter contents, gives the chocolate a nice sheen and snap.
If you know this than a weather proof couverture chocolate sounds like a contradiction.
Cheers
Karel
Hi,
Please help me in understanding wheather couverture chocolate is suitable for Indian climate ?When it will be sent across at various places through courier will it be able to withstand the Indian heat ?What should be done to avoid any sort of mishap with Couverture chocolates so nthat they can be sent at various places without any loss of their original form ???
Hi,
I use a latte machine at my place to heat the milk. I make a cocoa paste of, sugar, cocoa powder, dark chocolate, and water. I heat the sugar and water together till boiling then pour over the cocoa powder and chocolate. Then put in fridge till needed. I spoon the paste into the cup, heat the milk up and pour over the chocolate paste. It's rich and customers love it. Plus they like the idea of fresh made hot chocolate. Hope this helps.
Hi all,
I 've seen a similar post in this forum but it didn't quite answer my question so I would appreciate any advice from you. We are planning to have a stand at a market selling thick hot chocolate using our new machine (Camurri). The issue is that we will need to be heating new content to pour into the Camurri for refill cause its capacity is 5L, so we are looking for suggestions of a simple mixture that we could prepare on site and "cook" it before pouring it in the Camurri, or otherwise we would require to wait approx 20-30 mins for it to be prepared in the machine.
We are thinking of trying out the following method though we didn't get to test it yet:
Using a milk frother, add cold milk, sugar, cornstarch and cocoa, stir & warm them up. Then add solid chocolate and allow about a min to melt. Rewarm using the frother that would also mix the chocolate and pour it in the machine ready to be tasted.
Would anyone suggest any other method or recipe that could be more efficient in this case?
Any feedback on Camurri machines? (Ours is pretty new so we 're still testing it)
A million thanks for everything!
Your problem is that you aren't using seed chocolate. The Chocovision X3210 doesn't have the cooling ability you need when tempering without seed chocolate.
My solution which worked for me is tempering about a pound of chocolate by hand, and using that as seed chocolate. I bet that will solve you problem.
I have done the exact same thing, and i also checked with my thermometer and the temperature was different. I am wondering if like Mark Gerrits mentioned, I have cleaned it with water that was too hot. I have also had it stop on me in the middle of tempering and go back to the beginning with the C sign for celcius.. not sure why that happened. I have yet to try tempered seed chocolate though, that will be my next experiment. I'll let you know how that goes.
i don't have any experience with a rev 2. i have a Delta. Sounds as though it might be an issue with temperature probe on your baffle. do you have another baffle to try? apparently washing the baffle with too warm of water can damage the temp probe, FYI.
I'm having the same problem with my chocovision rev 2. I can temper fine by hand, but with this machine I've only done it right once or twice. I bring it up to around 115, down to around 81, then back up to 90. Can't get it to work. Also noticed that when I test the temperature of the chocolate with my thermometer, it differs from what the screen on the machine says...
thanks! ill give that a try, although it seems to get quite thick once i go to a low temp like 29 even. what confuses me is that I don't used tempered seed chocolate when i temper by hand and its fine, but for some reason the machine is different. Not sure if its something i am doing or possibly the machine itself.
Try going even lower, 27.5 or 27, possibly your chocolate is under-crystallized.
Another option is using some properly tempered seed chocolate.
Hey,
I am a new member to this site hoping someone may be able to help me with tempering my chocolate, I roast myself.
I am able to temper it perfectly by hand, but for some reason I can't seem to get it right with the chocovision machine. The chocolate is 70% Ghana, I select the dark chocolate mode and have played around with bringing up the melting point to see if it helps. So far I've brought it to 50C and then used the second temper mode and brought it down to 31. I have also tried bringing it down to 30, and 29. I have brought it down to 28 before but with a melting point of 45.
The results I have been getting are shiny but not a hard enough snap and soft when bitten into.
It appears tempered, but the snap is too soft. I am thinking of trying a higher melting point to see if that is the problem?
Any comments or advice is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Katie
attached are 2 photos
Im getting some real nice sheen on the praline, but theres also swirl
what causes the swirl?
any help appreciated
cheers
alan
Calum -
Vantage House sells and services FBM in the UK. Have you been in contact with them?
First off, throughput is on FBM machines is closer to 3x bowl capacity per hour than 5x. To get close to this throughput you do need to keep topping up the bowl as you go. You don't want to let the bowl get below 1/3 empty in normal operation as the machine is at its most efficient and stable when it's full (this applies to all continuous tempering machines of this type).
There is no way that you are going to use even close to 35kg an hour with an enrober. Think about it. 1000 pieces per hour at 10gr per piece is 10kg of chocolate. That's well within the Prima's range and far more than you can crank through the machine.
The hourly limit is reachable when filling molds. If you are hand-depositing 2 molds/minute and each mold has four, 60gr cavities then this is about .5kg/minute or 30kg/hr. In practice it's a challenge to work uninterrupted for this amount of time, so you'd pace the work accordingly.
There's another factor. 100kg/week is about 2.5 kg/hr on average. 250kg in a busy week is 6kg/hr. If this is in fact your production throughput then the Prima is more than suitable for your operation.
In practical terms, the machine is less difficult to clean than the enrober belt. Yes, there is chocolate waste but good working habits can keep it to a minimum - a couple of hundred grams per changeover, maybe. The best approach is to only changeover at the end of the day. The machines can be cleaned (washed if necessary) and left to dry overnight. If you don't wash then getting any enrober belt perfectly clean is nigh on impossible. The best you can do is to work with a heat gun and remove the majority of the current chocolate before swapping in the new. What you can do is capture the initial chocolate that is mixed and use it in a ganache or something like that - rework, not waste.
Ive been working on making a line of pralines
scenario; microwave tempered Callebaut C811(54%)+ 5% cocoa butter
mold at 26C (from a very cool oven, not a heat lamp or
ambient at 18-19C
single batches/trays
for the most part the temper is aok,
filling temp ambient
Q's;
Why would I get an odd corner of a praline that is massively untempered but the rest is ok.(see pic)
This particular mold is nice, it releases easy ( I presume its do to its shape). However it also tends to be the only one that has this odd, pattern on the side(see pic). I do think it has to do with the cooling...but I want to know how to eliminate it. Suggestions welcome.
I would welcome some hints at finishing the bottom. you can see from the pic the bottom is kinda sucky. When the chocolate goes on, its smooth. My problem is this; the filling is a touch too high, and when I scrape off the excess, its evident that the filling is too high (occasionally itss poke out like a turtle head.). If I fill it less the bottom becomes too thick. I have a very nice thin sides that quite a few testers have commented on. Id like to keep it that way.... the fillings are not very fluid, so they are piped in. I smack them down as much as possible, but after a while they just wont settle...
Thoughts?
Cheers
Alan
Well if it's sugar bloom it's due to humidity. That looks like fat bloom and it could be because of your room temperature during the night perhaps or incorrect tempering. Try doing the temper test at room temp instead in the fridge to see how it comes out.
Your chocolate might need a cooler environment to take out the latent heat produced by cristallization itself. It might also be affected by the thickness of your piece.
Hmm what's your room temperature? Did you make a temper test before pouring it?
I couldnt find a piece to my temper machine so I had to use the microwave. I put a cup of chocolate pieces in a microwave safe bowl then heated it to 118 degree in short 15-20 second bursts. I then let the chocolate cool to 95 degrees while stirring every little while. When it hit 95 I started to add my seed chocolate. Then I got the temp to 90 degrees. At this point I poured the chocolate on my candy and let it sit on the counter. When I came back a little while later it looked like this. What am I doing wrong?
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